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Seaford is not bad, priced well and will grow. Has a beautiful beach a lot of people arent aware of. My parents bought there about 12 years ago for $80K!

Frankston will grow. Frankston North is ghetto. Different altogether. Dont buy there for growth, only reason would be for a cashflow positve investment if possible. The ferals wont be leavin for a long time yet!
Good luck collecting your rent on time. My lil sister in law (21 now) bought in franga 3 years ago when talk of growth there first began. All 3 tenents have stooged the rent leaving her to pick up the shortfall. The current one is 4 months behind. Good luck evicting, they have all the rights.

For growth, buy as close to the beach as possible, buy a property with as much land as possible. Within your budget.

Look at the suburb that has boomed and go for the next suburb further along the beach.

For an investment property you want quality tenants, so go for a quality apartment in the best suburb you can afford.

Buy property that has an upside, that can be improved to add value.
In something brand new you are relying on area growth alone.

Do not buy in a new estate no matter what.

Good location = good real estate.
Good real estate does not go down when the market cools.

Show me a house in a good suburb that you can buy cheaper today than 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago and i'll buy it for you.

This has helped me to over $1.2m in property in 9 years at 34.
About $450k of that is from growth.

Ps. playing with cars sure doesnt help! But its FUN. And ya gotta have some fun :wink:
 
WRCVR4 said:
How much deposit do i need, for an investment property ?

Lots of variables in that one ...

On most properties, I have been able to get people 95-100%
 
DOUGMO said:
over 20% for no mortgage lenders insurance

JSTYLE said:
rock_it said:
WRCVR4 said:
How much deposit do i need, for an investment property ?

Lots of variables in that one ...

On most properties, I have been able to get people 95-100%

yer but thats with mortgage insurance yer? which is about 3% of the loan amount yer?

Jon

Yer he was saying lending 95-100% which ment mortgage insurance territory! If you have 20% deposit then there is no mortgage insurance required.

Jon
 
Yeah, the dreaded mortgage insurance... Kinda sucks, but if you don't have the upfront funds, what can you do ...

In other cases, we have had parents sign over some of the equity in their homes to help kids get a mortgage with little to no deposit.... Off memory, I think that avoids mortgage insurance, but would have to double check ...
 
DOUGMO said:
we managed to have a 21% deposit

made life heaps easier

yer i scraped in with just over 20% too.. i had a 90 day settlement (Well still do) which made wonders for saving and all that.. settlements next friday!!!

Jon
 
Alright I got a slightly off topic one for you, I have no desire to live in my own home, happy renting with mates at the moment. I am earning about 50K a year and have no debts. Would an investment property be a good idea? Or should I put my funds somewhere else?
 
If you read the right books, thats what you should do, a house you live in, is not an asset (fits on the wrong side of the table)

That said, negative gearing, is not the way the books tell you to do it, but try finding a place in Melbourne which is cash-flow-positive these days.
10sec rule = house costs $200,000 rent needs to = $400/pw
 
WRCVR4 said:
but try finding a place in Melbourne which is cash-flow-positive these days.
10sec rule = house costs $200,000 rent needs to = $400/pw

GOODLUCK!!!! Most houses worth 200k will rent out for like $200-250 a week tops!

Jon
 
You're not including the tax rebates that you get from a negatively geared property, or the capital gains.

Keep the property for long enough, it will be cashflow positive. Pay off enough of the loan, it will be cashflow positive. Renovate the house enough, it will be cashflow positive. Etc, etc, etc.
 
jase said:
You're not including the tax rebates that you get from a negatively geared property, or the capital gains.

Keep the property for long enough, it will be cashflow positive. Pay off enough of the loan, it will be cashflow positive. Renovate the house enough, it will be cashflow positive. Etc, etc, etc.

No all that means is that you have more equity in the place, and can borrow more for the next property.

Cash-flow-positive means that the rent you receive, covers ALL costs of owning the property (inc the loan), and your taxable income goes up, not down. Capital gains, when sold, are a bonus, and have nothing to do with cashflow.
 
WRCVR4 said:
jase said:
You're not including the tax rebates that you get from a negatively geared property, or the capital gains.

Keep the property for long enough, it will be cashflow positive. Pay off enough of the loan, it will be cashflow positive. Renovate the house enough, it will be cashflow positive. Etc, etc, etc.

No all that means is that you have more equity in the place, and can borrow more for the next property.

Cash-flow-positive means that the rent you receive, covers ALL costs of owning the property (inc the loan), and your taxable income goes up, not down. Capital gains, when sold, are a bonus, and have nothing to do with cashflow.

its a pretty easy scenario... u need money to make money.. no money.. no make as much money as u would if u had the extra money

Jon
 
Correct, so at this stage, im planning on dumping ALL the spare cash i can find, into either a High Interest bank account, or shares, until i have increase this enough to seriously look at property, even then, it will depend on financial advice, which may suggest margin lending, and borrowing against the portfolio ......
 
i just spoke to my bank.. fixed interest rates are going up on monday on an average of .3% which on your average loan is about $50-80 a month extra in repayments! Doesnt seem like alot but over 15 years thats massive.

Lucky for me i fixed mine at the old rate!!!!

Jon
 
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