Reliable 200kw ATW
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EVOLANCER
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depends really... how much u wanna spend... with a evo 2 u can do that quiet easy with a ecu tuned n a turbo...
Something like this will get you there:
20G turbo (The GT Pumps one is about $1500 iirc)
Larger fuel pump (Walbro's $200 ish)
Decent boost controller ($400-800??)
At least a K&N Panel for your airbox, or a pod (from $130)
Larger dump/front pipe/cat/exhaust (custom made prolly $2000??)
Something to run it, ie atleast a piggy back ($1000+ plus tune on top)
Maybe larger injectors too (later evo ones are slightly bigger $300ish)
You might also get that much with a GT pumps enhanced 16G.
I'm sure if I've missed stuff otheres will pipe up
20G turbo (The GT Pumps one is about $1500 iirc)
Larger fuel pump (Walbro's $200 ish)
Decent boost controller ($400-800??)
At least a K&N Panel for your airbox, or a pod (from $130)
Larger dump/front pipe/cat/exhaust (custom made prolly $2000??)
Something to run it, ie atleast a piggy back ($1000+ plus tune on top)
Maybe larger injectors too (later evo ones are slightly bigger $300ish)
You might also get that much with a GT pumps enhanced 16G.
I'm sure if I've missed stuff otheres will pipe up
Entaran
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big 16g and some 264/264 cams should do it.
Maybe some cam gears and a better headgasket.
Otherwise the engine's right to do it straight out of the box.
Probably get it all done for less than 2k in parts (new) if you do your own wrenching.
Maybe some cam gears and a better headgasket.
Otherwise the engine's right to do it straight out of the box.
Probably get it all done for less than 2k in parts (new) if you do your own wrenching.
a big 16g or 20g should do it - there's $1100 - $1500
560cc injectors - $400
walbro - $200
3 inch dump, cat, exhaust - $1000
2.5 inch cooler piping - $800
3 inch intake pipe and pod filter - $300
wolf 3d computer with boost control installed and tuned - $3000
that should do it!
560cc injectors - $400
walbro - $200
3 inch dump, cat, exhaust - $1000
2.5 inch cooler piping - $800
3 inch intake pipe and pod filter - $300
wolf 3d computer with boost control installed and tuned - $3000
that should do it!
Entaran
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There is NO REASON AT ALL for you to go aftermarket computer. It can be done with a reflashed standard ecu.
Anything bigger than a 16g will be too laggy for dutton events so stick to small turbos running at the high end of their compressor maps.
a 3 inch exhaust is good, but you ideally want a 2.5 inch dump or an antilag system to help the spool after gears.
Your fuel system won't cost you much.
Anything bigger than a 16g will be too laggy for dutton events so stick to small turbos running at the high end of their compressor maps.
a 3 inch exhaust is good, but you ideally want a 2.5 inch dump or an antilag system to help the spool after gears.
Your fuel system won't cost you much.
200kw atw is pretty easy to get with just bolt ons, but make sure the engine is in good working order to start with. The boys pretty much answered the question except theres no need for a aftermarket computer. I'd rip off the head and install a brand new Cometic head gasket ($200) and timing belt kit ($300) as a number 1 priority before you go looking for extra power. To top it off I'd use an Apexi AVCR electronic boost controller and an Apexi SAFC to control the fuelling
Woot!
Maybe I will get 200 myself
You could do it fairly cheaply in that 21 odd psi of boost, set of cams, and a SAFC... mebbe some 560cc injectors...
If it were me, i would spend a bit more coin, nice tune, less boost and save your engine a bit.
Maybe I will get 200 myself
You could do it fairly cheaply in that 21 odd psi of boost, set of cams, and a SAFC... mebbe some 560cc injectors...
If it were me, i would spend a bit more coin, nice tune, less boost and save your engine a bit.
I am trying to think of my set up when I had 201kw ...
OK ... Just checked the old car domain page...
When I was getting 200kw, it was on 17psi... I had rebuilt the engine, put in forgies and stuff, and copper Tomei head gasket... Everything else was stock ... I had upped the injectors, but the intake manifold was all standard... At this stage I was also running the Garrett GT30 turbo, K&N air filter, and also had the EMS 8860 ECU....
Not all of that would be needed, but that was pretty low boost, and was very reliable... I had no drama's what so ever...
OK ... Just checked the old car domain page...
When I was getting 200kw, it was on 17psi... I had rebuilt the engine, put in forgies and stuff, and copper Tomei head gasket... Everything else was stock ... I had upped the injectors, but the intake manifold was all standard... At this stage I was also running the Garrett GT30 turbo, K&N air filter, and also had the EMS 8860 ECU....
Not all of that would be needed, but that was pretty low boost, and was very reliable... I had no drama's what so ever...
MADEVO
Member
yeah but that is at 2 wheels!!
MADEVO
Member
it won't get as much power to the ground, but the power u get to the ground will make a world of difference!!
Yep, true, but I have kept the tune and the boost to 20psi as it was pointless to put it higher as it would have served me no benefit.
I am very interested to see what it would put down on all 4 ... Is there a formula you could apply to try and work it out, or is it not exactly a science :?:?? First AWD car I have owned so I am a bit of a noob when it comes to all things AWD ....
I am very interested to see what it would put down on all 4 ... Is there a formula you could apply to try and work it out, or is it not exactly a science :?:?? First AWD car I have owned so I am a bit of a noob when it comes to all things AWD ....
Entaran
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It's not a science, but generally 2wd = 15-20% reduction on engine horsepower, 4wd = 35% or so reduction on engine horsepower.
So I imagine your 201KW tune will net you around 170-180 @ all four.
So I imagine your 201KW tune will net you around 170-180 @ all four.
Yeah for example the WRX STi has 206kw at the motor and it makes 145kw at all 4 on the dyno bog stock so they have a loss of 61kw through the AWD drivetrain. How much of that goes between front and back I have NFI :?
Im a goose ... I now put out 238kw @ the wheel ... I was just using the 201 chart as a comparison ...
Anyway, to get to 238, I had to change the air intake and enlarge the TB's ... Running at 20psi ... But I find now, that there is so much pressure in the engine, that the dipstick shoots out ... So it is held in with a spring ...
A friend of mine who rally's the Evo's tells me he has the same problem, and advises me that it is common ... Is this true :?:
Anyway, to get to 238, I had to change the air intake and enlarge the TB's ... Running at 20psi ... But I find now, that there is so much pressure in the engine, that the dipstick shoots out ... So it is held in with a spring ...
A friend of mine who rally's the Evo's tells me he has the same problem, and advises me that it is common ... Is this true :?:
Entaran
Well-Known Member
Yes it's common.
Usually fixed with a new dipstick or dipstick seal and slight crimping of the top of the dipstick pipe.
Springs work too
Usually fixed with a new dipstick or dipstick seal and slight crimping of the top of the dipstick pipe.
Springs work too
