Wide front guards? (some updates)

[T_Wing]

Hey Jay,

As per our conversation a couple of weeks ago, here is the progress of my rear widebody. Enjoy. (Its taken about 4 full weekends so far, and thats only got me one, and it is no were near complete!!)

 

[JayRome]

ey man looks good, keep it goin...... doesnt look like i will be finishing mine atm.... straped for cash :? , but will make somthing in future for every one in fibre glass or somthing for the front........

how wide extra did you go?
i only went an 1" but thinking about re doin it all and goin wider a bit........

 

[JAP63]

Crazy Bstards with yourwide bodies...T-Wing that looks like your onto something good..efforts respected...good to see time invested to do it properly..lord knows its not cheap too do.
Whats the plans with the doors....bring the skins out the same amount?

I dont care what anyone says..the car better have 17x9 with a 0 offset when your finnished!!

 

[T_Wing]

Crazy Bstards with yourwide bodies...T-Wing that looks like your onto something good..efforts respected...good to see time invested to do it properly..lord knows its not cheap too do.
Whats the plans with the doors....bring the skins out the same amount?

I dont care what anyone says..the car better have 17x9 with a 0 offset when your finnished!!

:lol: :lol: Its the result of having a pregnant G/F, sometimes they need their time alone!

Yeah I'm on the look out for some big rims, I'm not sure of an offset that crazy, but depends on what I can find. 17 x 9's are on the list, just a matter of finding something in 4 stud!

I think bringing out the skins on the doors is the ticket, from the front of the rear door back.

 

[JAP63]

I more or less fluked my set
17x9 @+39
Gotta fill them guards
a 9 inch at 0 offset would be the go for ya!!
Imagine the dish you could get

You gonn aleave the front doors at standard width?
front guards?

 

[T_Wing]

The fronts are to be widened too

You can kind of see them on this pic. Front doors I'll leave I think.

I do love a good dish, but the problem is trying to figure all of the offsets out without having something to gauge it from.

Have you got pics of your rims?? I'm thinking something like this:

or maybe this:

 

[JayRome]

dws i got you covered for the Wide fronts T_Wing, you already know what they look like... lol... my rims might goo soon too and just buy a set later, i already have Jap lite weight alloys on the car atm...... i have too much sheit and parts from other cars in my back yard....

if your goin 17X8" wide all round +45 will work all round, the back will rubb depending on your suspension set up, i am running currently 16X7" with 225/50 tyres at +50 offset, its perfect dead centre on front and rear... but the VR4 can camber the rears soo its a lil easier for you guys....

my rims are Work Mesh style, 17X8" with 235/45 tyres on the back of my lant.... you can hardly fit a finger between the fender and the tyre, but was planning on stretching 215/45's on there

my front were holding 17X9" with 235/45 tyres but the tyre touched the suspension by like 1mm , but if i had coil overs they would have fitted well or stretched 225/45's would have been better....

 

[JAP63]

if your goin 17X8" wide all round +45 will work all round, the back will rubb depending on your suspension set up,

The Vr4's have a bit more guard clearance in the rear so fitting 8's @ +45 isnt too bad..they go on pretty well might require a little bit of neg camber...but minimal

Getting off topic a bit ..but....

It seems the rear of a GSR with the Trailing beam setup seems to sit the hub out a liitle further and closer the guard whereas the IRS on a VR4 sits in a liitle more..and then even more so when u dial in some camber...making fitment of wider wheels more possible.

Heres a pic of 17x 9 @ +39
i only put shitty tyres on them cos i knew it was gonna rub,it ended up rubbing the sideskirt piece of and then eventually rubbed through the sidewall and blew the tyre apart..only cos the wheel alignment never gave it enough clearance though...and it has the wrong tyres on it (235/45/17) the car sits pretty low though.

In theory putting 9's on a VR4 youd want a +30 offset to clear the inner trailing arm..with around 3 degrees neg camber if you want it sitting low inside the guards...like the pic.

Thats for stock guards..if youve pulled yours out an inch or 25mm..then (17x9 @+39)-25mm=17x9 @+14...go for it!! :!:

Any more help just ask..or refer to this.
http://4gtuner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2583&highlight=backspace+clearance

I sent JayRome some info a while ago hes still probly got it.

 

[JayRome]

lol saved on a word doc somwere !! Jap63 would be best person to ask bout rim and tyre size on VR4....

 

[JAP63]

lol saved on a word doc somwere !! Jap63 would be best person to ask bout rim and tyre size on VR4....

haha u probly only wanted some sizes except i sent u my whole research.

Get the 215's on your rear rims...if you can find a dealer to fit them...
Should give you some more guard clearance...a mate of mine ran 215's on his 8's and never had a bead problem or had them pop off..so they should be fine...
Last week i seen 215's squeezed onto a 9...it blew of when they inflated it..they eventually got it...bit ridiculous though...and definently not legal.

 

[JayRome]

lol nah, planning on selling the rims atm...... finish other things i want to do on the car, i still have 3 sets or tyres/rims at my place and there takin up space! i shall update on progress if anything shall happen........ and 215 is the min size to go on a 8" rim, i see the tyre comin off while someones driving, if it was put on a 9" rim... would be funny to see though..LOL.....

 

[GVR40]

damm u guys, i want wide guards now, lol

 

[T_Wing]

how wide extra did you go?
i only went an 1" but thinking about re doin it all and goin wider a bit........

The rears on mine are about 50mm wider, the fronts are tapered from 25mm at the front to 50mm at the rear. I decided to go PHAT!!

 

[MADEVO]

:shock:

 

[JayRome]

crazy T_Wing, i was planning on matching the bottom of the doors as well so it wouldnt look odd but need a hell of alot more time now to doo all that....

GVR40: feel free to join us bro.... make your own ...

 

[T_Wing]

crazy T_Wing, i was planning on matching the bottom of the doors as well so it wouldnt look odd but need a hell of alot more time now to doo all that....

Yeah I know what you mean. I get Wed and Sundays off, so I can't get two good solid days into it. Back into it again tomorrow

 

[JAP63]

The rears on mine are about 50mm wider, the fronts are tapered from 25mm at the front to 50mm at the rear. I decided to go PHAT!!

Theres your answer buddy.

17x9's at -12 offset...dish,dish and more dish..youll have half a rim of dish!!

mmmm Work meister

 

[T_Wing]

The rears on mine are about 50mm wider, the fronts are tapered from 25mm at the front to 50mm at the rear. I decided to go PHAT!!

Theres your answer buddy.

17x9's at -12 offset...dish,dish and more dish..youll have half a rim of dish!!

mmmm Work meister

SWEET!!

 

[evopwr]

hey t-wing;
love your rear wide fender work! looks quite insane

more pics would be awsome!

btw, did you rp off a rear quarter from another galant and welded it on??


cheers,

alex

 

[T_Wing]

hey t-wing;
love your rear wide fender work! looks quite insane

more pics would be awsome!

btw, did you rp off a rear quarter from another galant and welded it on??


cheers,

alex

Hey Alex,

I did rip the rear quarter off a Galant yes, however the process to get it to where it is now is a lot longer than just welding for me. I used a lot of Space-invader and Bog!! The rear quarter the way it is now is ready for me to make a fibreglass mold. This way if I damage it I can just make another one, or I can sell them!!

I'll make a detailed step-by-step for the passenger side rear when I get to that. Hopefully this weekend.