Wish me luck

[maccavr4]

Well the people that know me know that i am going to court to face some fairly serius charges well the case is tommorow (wednesday) and the charges are

Dangerouse driving Contest mention to carless driving
Un reg
Un rw
No p plates

no to bad but probly loose my licence with my priors

Anywas i will post up the results of my arse rapping tommorow night but for now i will leave u with some of the stuff i have written down to put to the court , have a read its not bad if u have a couple of minutes

 

[maccavr4]

My Thoughts:

Plead for careless driving as opposed to the dangerous driving.
Plead that P plates were displayed but police tampered with the vehicle.
Plead for my license at any cost ( I cant afford to lose it, I need it for work)
I am open to community service, good behavior bond or any punishment apart from the above.



I was a lot younger and living in a very different environment when these offences were committed and since this time I have moved to the city and have a good job as a P.D tech, at Etheridge Ford in Ringwood. The reason I committed these offences are that I was young and under a lot of stress, being that I was 19yrs old, running a kitchen full time 60hrs a week and renting a house living out of home. I used this as a way to blow of steam and it was something that we country kids grew up doing but it is now not expectable and I realize this and I now know that is a very serious crime and I deeply regret my actions. I am not trying to make excuses for committing these crimes, merely trying to explain my reasons to you.
I am still living out of home, paying rent and holding down full time employment, I pay a sum of 400$ a month rent and have a car loan that I am paying off, I ear a sum of 450$ a week after tax.
Facts:

The roads that I was on were closed logging tracks that havent been in use for some time, the track was also overgrown with trees, and was a dead end.

The vehicle that was used, and said to be found: Very hot and smoking from the engine bay, was taken to a mechanic after it was retrieved on a trailer and it was found that the police had tampered with the vehicle. They had removed the battery from the vehicle and then put it back in the vehicle backwards so that the positive where matched to negative wires. This caused the cars wiring loom to short out, which is what caused the smoke, in essence the wires were shorting out and igniting. I have a good knowledge of how these things work, as it is now my job to know, and was explained to me in great detail by the mechanic. There is no way that the vehicle could have been this way before they got to it as the car would not have run. The police also damaged the vehicle so that the bonnet was not operational (it was smashed closed), took the Distributor Rotor Cap, which was later returned. The vehicle, a rare Datsun 1000 ute, was later destroyed as it could not be fixed easily from the damage caused by the police. I am not looking for compensation in any way, just asking that the court take this into account.

 

[lefty]

gl bro

my mate mark got a $2G fine + 12months, that was today

 

[amulday]

You should have gone to a driving course that promotes safe driving of some kind. A friend got done for over .05, he went to AA meetings before the court hearing, and also the fact that he had to take his brother to school in the mornings, the court let him off, he Got to keep his license, had to pay 500ish and 3 points off.

 

[Evil_Mx6]

all the best of luk mate, i hope you get to keep your licence, please let us know how u went....

Good Luck Mate
Barbs

 

[REX-ETR]

good luck bro.

Been to court aplenty of times myself on some serious charges none attending to driving so far and they are anal in sydney, esp when they send you to a high court that has taken me 9 months to get a hearing :roll:

interested to see how you go man

i lost my licence for 2 years only got it back about 6 months ago, was a shitter of a 2 years....tho its always good being a passenger :lol:

 

[maccavr4]

well went to court today and the informent aka the copper that dicked me was on holidays so another agorment till the 14feb lol i wanted it out of the way but oh well so next time if will be overwith

luckily i know the copper pretty well and he is calling me tommorow about dropping the charges 1 and 5 which are no ps and dangerouse driving if i take 2 3 4 which are carless driving , un rw and un reg so we will see how we go i guess and i will keep u guys posted

 

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

 

[CLuTZ]

The copper can tell you all he wants, but its the judges desicion that says teh last words, im just saying this so you dont get your hopes up.

You dont know jack, its the police prosecutor who puts forward the charges to the judge.

luckily i know the copper pretty well and he is calling me tommorow about dropping the charges

P.S Macca, I wouldnt be gloating about knowing the cop, because what you have just said could land you in court on an even more serious charge, and get your mate the copper to loose his job and be sent to court for perverting the course of justice, and perjury.

I'd be asking for this thread to be cleaned up/moved if i was you mate :lol:

 

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

 

[maccavr4]

You dont know jack, its the police prosecutor who puts forward the charges to the judge.
No it is the INFORMANT aka the cop that booked me but u where closer then jackass

sorry dre but really dont have any idea of the situation and neather do u roger what i am doing is COMPLETLY LEGAL

the copper is the senior constable of the police station which is not even in melbourne and all we r doing is discusing the case i can put to him whateva i want and HE ALONE has the power to get rid of parts of the case, its like barganing and is all part of the legal jorney , trust me i have been though this many times

but thanks for ur support

p.s rodger i would be keeping ur smart legal points to ones self as u might be up for vehicular manslaghter and stay the fuck out of my threads i dont talk in ur so stay out of mine bitch

Plus my name is not on the internet anywhere and i cannot be tracked back to this even if it where illegal which it isnt

 

[EVO-00X]

trust me i have been though this many times

:roll: geez dude... didnt you learn the first, second and third time? If you've got a history of offences it doesnt look so good, so you're gonna need all the help you can get before it goes to court. The Police hold a responsibility to keep people like you off the streets for the safety of others (no offense I assume you've gone through this before from what you've written) and if they are helping you plea-bargain for lesser charges then they themselves hold themselves liable for the repercussions should you re-offend in the future causing serious injury or worse to yourself or others. Not that I have anything against you getting off on a lesser charge, go for it as its the Australian way :lol: , just that I hope you have a rethink about what youve been doing wrong and try to change for the better because we all need a license to get around and have some independence. We're all not angels and definitely not perfect I will admit that - sometimes we do stupid things without thinking - I think it comes part of the package of being a male :lol: All the best in Feb dude... gives you time to think :wink:

 

[maccavr4]

thanx and i totally agree

since i moved to melbourne i have kept clean this case is over a yr old when i was a bit of a addict and hot head so i have already changed my ways for the better but as u state we r only human and males lol

and for some reason the courts only have a couple of seat belt offences on my record which is a shock but a good one

 

[EVO-00X]

Well if that's all on your record then you arent doing so bad. At least you're not on here gloating about how many cars you blew away street racing and then cry 'poor me' when shit hits the fan.... not like some others :lol: My whole perception of idiots on the road changed when a drunk driver almost claimed the life of my brother. Drunk was doing about 130kmh, brother about 90kmh... almost full head on - he was lucky to escape with his life. The drunk ran away from the scene of the crime, the passenger who owned the car wont dob in who it was driving (said it was someone he met at the pub) so to this day they got away scott-free... insurance wont touch it because driver cant be named... so the innocent party, my brother was injured, lost his job, his girlfriend, had to move back home, and I had to lend him $$ for another car. Only now over a year later looks like he's gonna get around $9000 from the accident in medical expenses.... it means stuff all cause his job was paying him $1200 after tax per week and he missed the next contract at work and has since got another job :roll:

 

[maccavr4]

no good man not good at all
1 thing i can say is that i never drink drive
i should have much much more on my record but it hasnt shown its ugly head YET

 

[maccavr4]

You should have gone to a driving course that promotes safe driving of some kind. A friend got done for over .05, he went to AA meetings before the court hearing, and also the fact that he had to take his brother to school in the mornings, the court let him off, he Got to keep his license, had to pay 500ish and 3 points off.

how would i go about doing this course anyone ?

 

[rock_it]

In Sydney they are run by the PCYC... It is called the traffic offenders program... I did it for 8 weeks, when I was done for going more then 45k's over the speed limit... Got my licence suspension down to 2 months instead of 6 ... So that was pretty good...

I just had to go along to this course once a week for about 3 hours.... Not sure if the same thing runs down in Melbourne...

 

[CLuTZ]

sorry dre but really dont have any idea of the situation

from what you said back on page 1 (let me get this right) you said the cop is a good friend of yours, and that you've been talking to him about dropping some of the charges?

:roll: lol


Isnt it the job of A) your lawyer, and B) the police prosecutor in court the day of your hearing to determine what you are going to be charged with and what is going to be dropped if you enter an early plea??

I've never heard of anyone getting charged with an offence, then get the charges dropped outside of a courtroom.....

once your charged, your charged- you cant get off it outside of court.

 

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

 

[CLuTZ]

A police persecutor will persecute and question both parties, its the judge that lays down the law and gives the final verdict, the judge listens to and gathers infomation made by when the PP starts the case.


In the judicial system of New Zealand, a Police Prosecutor is a lawyer employed by the Police to present cases in district court, as the counsel for the prosecution.

Mate, we're not talking about the supreme court here. You've been watching too much law and order buddy :lol:

In a magistrates court (district court in NZ), the police prosectutors are police themselves. You dont think they're going to bother paying a lawyer $$$$$ just to book you on some traffic offences do you??

The police (the ones prosectuting) sometimes strike deals with the defendant (who is represented by a lawyer or themselves) to plead guilty on the more serious charges in order to drop the less serious charges. The judge DOES NOT do this, but simply takes the plea to the "summary of charges" produced by the police prosecutor, and goes from there.

Getting charges dropped cannot be done outside of a courtroom, or over the phone to your "mate the cop". Once the arresting officer or the officer filing the charges files them, its then left up to the police prosecutor to drop the charges, or not. IT IS NOT up to the judge. The judge IS NOT taking you to court- the police are. Its the judges job to find out if your guilty or not.

Ive been in court b4 in regards to my mazda 808 smash, so i know how it works, so YOU dont tell me that i dont know how it works CAPICHE Chicken cakes.

It takes more than one run in with the judicial system to understand it you chump- go back to making those wack remixes and bullshitting about putting people in comas.

your such a waste of time/energy/space, maybe we should start up a poll to see if KINGOFTALKINGSHITOUTOFHISASS deserves to be a member of this club anymore, your more trouble than your worth, I feel sorry for your family for being related to you.