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A couple of things I DON'T like about some of the coil overs around atm (mainly applies to G4's as that is what I have had direct experience with, but may apply to others):
1. They use an aluminium foot on them and some (eg. G4) have oversized holes in the foot to allow additional camber adjustment. So basically they rely on the two strut/ hub bolts being done up nice and tight and the resultant friction is what locks it together and keeps your wheel alignment from changing. Hit a small pothole while cornering and I doubt that friction would be enough to prevent the alignment from being screwed up. I have seen shocks with steel feet end up with elongated holes cause the bolts were not done up tight enough and the slopping around wore the holes and caused horrible changes in camber and therefore in toe as well (say bye bye tyres). It also worries me that even though you tighten up those two strut/hub bolts properly, over time, there is the chance that the aluminium feet will compress where the bolts are and your once tight bolt is now a loose bolt therefore they should be constantly checked.

2. The g4's I had a play with only seemed to have adjstable rebound. The bump rate was very soft and seemed to remain unchanged. This to me just seems plain wrong. In comparison, some old Koni's I have have a fixed rebound but the bump rate is adjustable. This makes more sense to me as you don't want your suspension bottoming out all the time.

In anycase Jamie, have a look at the actual product, keep in mind the above, and make up your own mind as to whether they are suitable for you or not.

By the way, the latest Hotbits are rumoured to have seperately adjustable bump and rebound :).
 
3zercrowd said:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:cool:



I rikey my Teins:D
HARDLY used at all!:eek:


Hmmmmmmmmm :cool:

Teins.jpg


Brand spankers, just picked 'em up today :D
 
$2200 for super street now is pretty good still considering the exchange rate, and they have a warranty to boot

tufrice must have had his in for over a year now and are obviously going well still
 
3800 would be for Tein Mono Flex, worth much more than Type Flex.
If you only wanted to spend less than half of that on some coilovers, I've heard mostly good things about BC BR coilovers. Pretty similar on paper to the Mono Flex, and guys in the states seem to think that they're pretty similar in real world performance also. My only concern is that the dampers might quickly go soft or blow with some hard driving and not many KM.
 
Craig_CD9A said:
3800 would be for Tein Mono Flex, worth much more than Type Flex.
If you only wanted to spend less than half of that on some coilovers, I've heard mostly good things about BC BR coilovers. Pretty similar on paper to the Mono Flex, and guys in the states seem to think that they're pretty similar in real world performance also. My only concern is that the dampers might quickly go soft or blow with some hard driving and not many KM.


which they will and do..... i nearly bought them too ages ago, but im glad i saved for longer and bought teins......then sold them and bought dms50s
 
3zercrowd said:
:eek:

I paid $1623 delivered to my door with less than a 1000ks on them:) Yahoo Japan FTW!


Shiiiiit

You bastard, what sorta conditon? have you drove on them yet?
 
DOUGMO said:
which they will and do..... i nearly bought them too ages ago, but im glad i saved for longer and bought teins......then sold them and bought dms50s

Retail on DMS 50's are like over 4k at the moment!
 
Wow, I havent read this thread completely and it seems my new thread ties in well, especially what Rob323 wrote about the elongated holes!! This is what happened to a friend of mine's D2's lately - with pic!! http://4gtuner.com/site/showthread.php?t=11438

On another note I got my coil overs from Fulcrum when they were still making their own in-house Australian made FORMULA model which was basically a Bilstein clone. Now that Fulcrum are a Tein distributor you dont hear jack shit about their previous manufactured range :( although they still service them. The Fulcrum Formula is not fully adjustable with all the dampening whizz bang features as the newer suspension models are these days but theyre a good solid and servicable unit. Time will tell though as I havent given them a workout yet. If I were in the market to buy new suspension these days I'd be skipping right passed the D2/KSport units and considering fitting up a set of Teins or Hotbits instead :)
 
Id love a set of mono Flex, but what Dean and both Robs have said has led me to call Hotbits...

I spoke with them there today and the pros and cons I came up with were as follows.

PROS
-Proper 2 way Dampening Adjustment of Bound and Rebound
-Cold Wound Springs
-Mono Tube design with external canister for Gas.
-Steel lower mounts
-Sericeable In Australia, and with a warranty
-Springs can be made to order and rates can be customised
-Pleenty of Ride heights adjustment

CONS
-I cant really find much out about them
-Made in Malaysia?
-Retail Price, (though if the unit is worth it, its not a Con)
-I dont have really too much feedback on them/opinions etc...



Ive got more Pros than Cons on that list, which is a good thing...

What do you guys think of HotBits then?
Worth the money?

I know Dean was pretty Impressed with them..But a few more opinions would be good.
 
my G4's served me well so far for a good 9mths now. no issues, cheap and for street is perfect and they sit very low with lots of room to go lower. G4 = D2. racing logic is same build quality but different factory from G4/D2. BC is REALLY good build quality for the price u pay. BC makes the relabeled apexi coils

u also gotta think about rebuild costs, some of those jap ones cost alot of moolah for rebuilds, teins can cost up to 400$ a shock for rebuild depending on how stuffed it is (base on a scan of a bill i saw from another guy who owned teins and had 2 of them rebuilt for 800$ total)

u can get g4's rebuilt at justcrap for about 80$ ;) and a shitload of spring selection for pretty cheap
 

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