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you have to remember that in Japan, it's almost impossible to find a workshop to do custom work for you due to them just being too busy, so that is the reason HKS, GReddy and so on released off the shelf items so it's easier for the Japs to get parts.

where as in Aus, it's fairly easy to find a reputable place to do custom work that will be just as good if not better and it won't even be as much as buying a branded name product!
 
olly said:
where as in Aus, it's fairly easy to find a reputable place to do custom work that will be just as good if not better and it won't even be as much as buying a branded name product!

don't agree with you there, pending the component. When it comes to intakes/plenums, no way. Requires a ridiculous amount of R&R to get it right. Hypertune is an australian company which charges a fairly hefty amount compared to other US brands, and they're good... but not as good as HKS. And they specialise in intake plenums... so i doubt very much that a one off component made somewhere else will be as good without either copying another design (and likely missing components from the original), or costing you alot more than anything else out there, because of the amount of R&D involved. For a 1 off, no way.
 
For new products where a company needs to make some $$ to recover initial setup and R&D charges then I can appreciate a high price tag, but company's get smarter and streamline costs across the board to make their products cheaper. In a perfect world they should therefore 'hopefully' reduce the price tag... but as if that's going to ever happen as lower overheads always means greater profit!

There was a post in here recently quoting a long email from an ex-employee from Garret turbos. He stated they cost *** all to make, maybe only $20 or so, and that even though parent company Honeywell were making huge profits they were still going to outsource the manufacturing to China because they could do it even cheaper. The bottom line counts in big business so you can ask whatever price people are willing to pay for your product, simple as that. If people stop buying Garrett turbos Honeywell will reduce the price because they can afford to, then people will buy again. Its simple supply and demand economics.

What I dont agree with is the high markup in the clothing sector. You can have the same shirt made in the same factory using the same cotton blend in China. One gets a no name brand tag, the other gets a name brand tag sewn into it with a coloured piece of cardboard to tell you what brand it is. In the shops the no name will be $20, the brand name $80!! The stupid consumer who decides to pay for the $80 shirt just creates more fat rich c*nts masturbating over the sound of their own voice when gathering around the corporate meeting table lol :lol:
 
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